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Advocating for Decent Health Care

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As I waited in the Emergency Room with my elderly mother today, I listened to two strangers discussing the horrors of what they had heard routinely goes on in ERs across the country. And horrors they were.

One spoke of elderly patients dying in chairs and on gurneys whilst being ignored by overworked staff members; the other gave an account of a friend of a friend whose nine year old daughter died after not being properly treated. As the story went, two doctors of opposing opinions argued over the proper care of the child. One believed the girl had pneumonia and wanted her on antibiotics but the other decided it was a mere cold. The latter of the two was also on the latter of two shifts and won out. The nine year old lasted two days before flesh-eating disease got her. The parents are still waiting for the lawsuit to be tied up a year later.

In all of these cases, the tragedy which resulted might have been avoided with the presence of a competent patient advocate. After a cursory search in my own area of the world, which is Ontario, Canada, I discovered that finding an outside advocate isn’t easy. (I did only a quick search because had I been looking for an advocate in the case of an emergency, it’s logical that that’s all I’d have time for.) I found that it’s possible to get one to accompany a patient to appointments, etc., but the advocate must be interviewed in advance and paid for – highly inadequate in the case of having to go to the hospital in an emergency, and inaccessible for someone with no money. In any case, most of us rely on family and friends to advocate for us, as was the case with the little girl.

I have no way of knowing what the parents’ knowledge of medicine was, nor what their levels of intelligence are, but I do know, as a parent, that most mothers know what their children are like when they’re healthy and how they act when they’re sick. Was the mother in tune with her daughter but unable to express her concerns to the doctor? Did the doctor simply choose not to listen? Again, I don’t know. What I do know is that it’s important for us to have at least a little understanding of what our loved ones are facing before we take the trip to the hospital in the first place. If that means going on the internet to search for the symptoms, so be it. At least we’ll know what questions to ask when faced with a busy doctor, and what to insist on as far as tests go.

I can’t help but think that these horrific events could have been prevented with the right amount of basic knowledge, advocacy, and attention to detail.

It’s scary to think that doctors don’t know what they’re doing. It’s frightening to know that our hospitals lack the funds to provide quality of care. But what is just as alarming is the fact that there’s no one to stick up for us, the patients, when we can’t or won’t stick up for ourselves.

 

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Author: Linda G. Hill

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38 thoughts on “Advocating for Decent Health Care

  1. Cookie's avatar

    I have two thoughts. First, there are patient advocates in hospitals here in Manitoba. I spoke to one when my own mother received less than acceptable care. Not only did nothing happen to the doctor in question, the advocate didn’t even bother to follow up with me afterwards. It was total bullshit and having the advocate was a waste of time. Second, I think doctors do know what they’re doing. The problem is that they don’t listen to their patients. What they need is more training in listening, empathy, and how to be a little less arrogant. I always think back to both of my children’s births, and how not ONE caregiver believed me when I told them the baby was coming. They ALWAYS knew better. Because I apparently can’t feel a human being halfway out of my vagina. Sheesh.

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    • Linda G. Hill's avatar

      It’s all so frustrating. That we have such a hard time making ourselves heard even when we’re right without a doubt. And what the use of having advocates who don’t do anything?
      I was given the opportunity by the retirement home to have someone go with my mother from there – a PSW – at a rate of $30/hr. Nice when you consider the average wait is five hours. And scary when you think it might have done no good.
      Sheesh is right.

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  2. joey's avatar

    That is so disturbing. There’s usually something in a mother that knows the child isn’t quite right. I can think of a dozen times instinct alone led me to the doctor or the ER. Two occasions stand out! My son hadn’t been feeling well all weekend, and had vomited a bit twice. When a fever (barely a fever) finally came at 9pm on Sunday night, that’s when his appendix burst! When Sassy refused to drink, I took her in to find Rotavirus. I hope I am never so unfortunate. I kinda wish I hadn’t read this.
    😦

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    • Linda G. Hill's avatar

      Instincts should never be ignored. I remember one time Alex was a bit “off” when he was a baby. His dad told me I was crazy but I insisted on taking him in to hospital – where he was rushed straight to the resuscitation room with a heart rate of 250 beats per minute.
      It’s hard to hear about the ones who weren’t so lucky, but at the same time, if my posts on the subject can change the life of just one caregiver for the better, I consider it worthwhile. Still – sorry if it upset you. It IS upsetting.

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  3. D.G.Kaye's avatar

    Frightening! I know only too well about scary ER stories that I have been in myself. Everyone says we are lucky to have health care, and we are, but the quality of it has certainly gone downhill. Greed and cutbacks are affecting in terrible ways. Heaven help those who are alone and have no advocates. Good reporting Linda. 🙂

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  4. suzjones's avatar

    I think there are many doctors who believe that because they have qualifications they know better than a parent. I remember taking my oldest to the ER once and telling them she had a broken arm. They argued that there was no break but I refused to budge until I had an x-ray done. I was right and she spent six weeks in plaster.
    Of course the Australian system (even with its flaws) is a great system.
    I’m sorry that you are having to fight for better health care for your mother.

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  5. idiotwriter's avatar

    A good read this Linda…glad your mum is ok. Sounds so appalling…I cannot know how much better it is here – to be fair. (I am inclined to think it depends where you are in the uk- not sure)

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    • Linda G. Hill's avatar

      Thanks, m’dear. I’ve heard differing stories from around the U.K., it’s true.

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      • idiotwriter's avatar

        Yeah – not been this end of the world long enough to give an accurate portrayal. AND – I only have Africa to compare it too. Health care is BRILLIANT there if you can afford a months salary for a nights stay in hospital..otherwise…your screwed basically…but they DO try. I think they ALL do try. Funding is a prob world wide – (I think)

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        • Linda G. Hill's avatar

          I think you’re right. The question is, is it the government budgets aren’t big enough or is it that the hospitals charge too much? When you consider how much they charge for a single box of tissues, and then they throw 3/4 of it out when the patient leaves the room in case it’s diseased… It’s just ridiculous.

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  6. willowdot21's avatar

    Don’t get me started!

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  7. ~ Sadie ~'s avatar

    Had a horrible experience at the ER with my husband a few years back. What’s worse, I called the patient advocate employed at the hospital. Not only did she not show up, she never eve returned my call & I called 4 times telling her we were leaving without doctor’a release (since we hadn’t seen one in over 13 hours after being admitted).

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  8. Tournesol's avatar

    It’s so bad in Quebec that my pharmacist encouraged me to go to Hawkesbury and many Quebecers are going to Ontario. I’m afraid to go to emergency hospital and wait alone…a few deaths this past year “that we know about”..waiting in the waiting room still.One woman was my age…Glad you are there for your mom, Linda. Hope she is well.

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    • Linda G. Hill's avatar

      Thanks Cheryl-Lynn. She’s doing much better.
      When I moved out of Gatineau things were getting pretty bad. I always took my kids to the children’s hospital in Ottawa. I must say I miss living so close to CHEO.

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      • Tournesol's avatar

        With the kids I always went to the Children’s in Montreal as well and the kids’ pediatrician was head in pediatrics at the Jewish General. Every morning 7:30 to 8:30 he took phonecalls to appease mommies…he was great…good old days.

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  9. navigator1965's avatar

    Unfortunately, an aging population and a generation of political fiscal incompetence do not auger well for future health care.

    Hope your Mum is okay.

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    • Linda G. Hill's avatar

      No, they certainly do not.
      Funny you should ask about my mother. She went in Thursday because she was sick – I wasn’t able to stay with her. Consequently she was told to get a blood test today or tomorrow (a holiday as you know) but they didn’t give her a requisition form. Had I been there, I’d have asked for one, knowing the way the system works.
      We spent 4 hours in Emerg today (at the ever-loving BGH) waiting for a blood test because she needed to see another doctor to get the requisition….
      Yes, she’s fine. Thanks for asking. 🙂

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  10. Paul Davis's avatar

    So this gets me heated overall. Our own system is now based on the government more heavily, in which we have VA waiting lists which aren’t real, allowing veterans to die. Doctors get paid $16 for a four hour surgery, yet we want minimum wage to be $15 an hour for people who stopped school a good ten or fifteen years earlier. If you went to school until 30, and you got paid $16 for something others would pay you thousands for, would you stick around? The best doctors in the world will be where they pay them what their talents demand. On the other hand, sometimes we just get crap doctors, even when they got paid more than $16 for four hours of surgery. And…end rant.

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    • Linda G. Hill's avatar

      Wow. And I thought it was bad up here. It’s no wonder you’re so frustrated.

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      • Paul Davis's avatar

        It’s not horrible yet, but doctors over the age of 40 are planning on retiring because of how things are going. They’re getting paid significantly less, while the lawsuits are still as active. Several hospitals have gone bankrupt for the exact reasons others have said, or the government has promised payment and forces hospitals to perform certain operations for patience under our government healthcare system, and then they don’t get paid for the care. So we’ll see what happens. It’s what my sister-in-law is getting into, but she’s an assistant, so most of the issues should pass her by. Good choice since she was originally becoming a doctor.

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  11. samokan's avatar

    I have to agree that the real customer that needs to be satisfied is the Insurance company not the patient.
    A story I heard from one of the hospital in the state, who tries to help their patients to the best of their ability , unfortunately in most cases , the insurance company will not pay since they went beyond the what was covered, thus as the hospital kept losing money it went bankrupt.

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  12. Charles Yallowitz's avatar

    Healthcare in general seems to be terrifying. I know we have the ‘joy’ of insurance companies over here. Really makes me think the entire industry is run by those who would rather let people die than lose a dollar.

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  13. MishaBurnett's avatar

    The customer is always right. Unfortunately in health care, the customer is not the patient. The one paying the bills is a third party, an insurance company, a government agency, and that is who the hospital has to satisfy. This is not to say that all medical professionals are indifferent to patient suffering–most people who go into medicine do so from a genuine desire to help others. The primary transaction, however, is between the hospital or clinic, and whom they bill–not between a doctor and a patient. Medical care has to take a back seat to checking the proper boxes on the proper forms in order to get paid.

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    • Linda G. Hill's avatar

      Sad but true. But it’s not entirely a matter of money – it’s also being able to give the correct and right amount of information to the health care professionals at the outset, so that the appropriate care is given. I’ve been in a position myself where I’ve omitted to tell the doctor or nurse something vital, with unfortunate consequences. Had I been more aware at the time what I was getting myself into, or had someone been with me who knew what to ask or what to say, it could have been avoided with no extra cost – and possibly less – than it ended up costing.

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